HOW MUCH DOES IT COST AND WHEN WILL IT PAY BACK MY INVESTMENT?
Well I have to do this even though I love to show others the nuts and volts of how to DIY. I taught electronics at SUNY Orange for many years back in the '70s and still like to teach. As much as I'd like to share with everyone what I learned from building some very successful projects, I have to now charge a nominal fee to keep from having too much work and no fun. So here it is, pick the parts that you would like help with, and know you will get more than your money's worth. I'll help you out for a day for what many lawyers would charge for an hour. If you have a particularly interesting and fun site you wish to develop, send me an Email (with pictures) and let's negotiate how we can do this for less $ and more satisfaction.
STEPS TO ENERGY INDEPENDENCE a guide:
SITE SURVEY AND ENGINEERING SMALL HYDRO POWER INSTALLATIONS:
Preliminary site inspections and feasibility estimates in the local area are generally just a flat fee of $100. A stipend of $500/day is charged for the onsite data collection portion to produce the DETAILED SITE SURVEY within a 50 mi radius of Cuddebackville NY. Outside of this, travel, lodging and meal expenses are additional. The following documents are charged as listed: (you may not need all of these documents so just choose and pick what you think you need, you may request additional documentation when/if needed. If you need me to prepare local permits, you will have to send me the forms. Each side of a 2 sided form is a page.)
All the engineering documents below will be specific to your site, and the results of my survey of your site are cited and included in these documents. This custom, site specific documentation varies in length and content so page counts are estimates. Each document request must be in writing and accompanied by a check for the appropriate amount. Email works well and I accept PayPal for payments of $5000 or less. I will prepare your requested documentation and have it out to you within 30 Days of receiving your order and cleared payment. If you order multiple documents it may take me a few additional days to get them all done. For larger sites (over 50KW but less than 500KW) an additional $200 per hour design and engineering fee is charged. I can Email your documents in PDF format or print them here and mail them. Some parts of these items are interdependent and generally should be ordered in sequence or together after the DETAILED SITE SURVEY is completed.
1. DETAILED SITE SURVEY consists of:
1a. Site topography, watershed study and watershed area determination and average flow rates. (1-3 page document, includes satellite images and maps $800)
1b. Determination of 'Q95' and 'Q50' and design head and flow rate, expected annual kWh production and valuation of the energy produced vs project cost estimates. (2-4 page doc $800)
2. Overall plan of water carrying circuits, structures (not including dams over 2' high or greater than 30' long. For design of such dams you will have to go to a civil engineering firm.), valve(s) placement and their elevations, optimum sizing and routing of penstock and discharge. Includes cost estimates. (1-2 page annotated drawings $1200)
3. Intake structures, fore-bays, self cleaning trash racks, ice and frizzle mitigation and sand, gravel, rock and log separation. Cost estimates for these items. (4-8 pages text and drawings $1500) (This can be your biggest maintenance headache, if not designed correctly for your site.)
4. Penstock pipe, materials, strength, procurement, installation methods, burying, anchoring, suspending, valves, water hammer bursting prevention, air inlet for collapse prevention, vortex air ingestion prevention and frost proofing / freeze up mitigation. (2-3 Pages w drawings $900)
5. Powerhouse design, construction and layout considerations, water distribution plenum, discharge pit / structures and cost estimates. (2-4 pg. Plan and elevation drawings $1000)
6. Turbine type, selection and optimum sizing for your site, buy ready made or build your own. All the details plus cost estimates. (3-7 pgs $1000)
7. Generator Selection, AC or DC, 12 - 48VDC, 120VAC, 240V, or 480V 1 Phase or 3, What speed? All the answers for your site, and perfectly matched to the turbine selection, Voltage regulation and Load controllers. Including cost estimates. (2-4 pgs $1200)
8. Complete power house electrical wiring diagram and parts list with costs. An electrician with commercial experience can purchase parts and install from these plans. (2-4 pages, drawings $1500)
9. The powerhouse to home and grid connection. Transfer switches, inter-tie protection relays, Net Metering. (2-3 pgs and diagrams / drawings $1200)
10. Connecting other renewable energy sources, Solar PV , Wind etc. (3-4 pgs $900)
11. Power plant monitoring, electric energy meters, monitor your plant via the internet from anywhere, webcam monitoring. (3-5 pgs $1500)
12. Application to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) ($200 per page of the application as submitted + FERCs fee)
13. Application to State Department of Environmental Protection, Conservation or equivalent ($200 Per Page + DEC / DEP fees)
14. Any other county, city, town or local permits, and/or building permit applications. ($200 PP + fees)
15. Post construction, on site, system checkout and commissioning. Expenses plus $500/day.
16. Post commissioning trouble shooting. Expenses plus $500/day.
If you are interested in retaining my services in a more open ended arrangement please see my Consulting Agreement below.
Sincere Regards and Happy Hydro
Rob
Robert J. Honders CE
Developing Technologies
Honderosa Valley Consulting and Renewables Research
Studio Building I
129 Kennel Rd.
Cuddebackville NY 12729
Honders@HVC.RR.COM
Well I have to do this even though I love to show others the nuts and volts of how to DIY. I taught electronics at SUNY Orange for many years back in the '70s and still like to teach. As much as I'd like to share with everyone what I learned from building some very successful projects, I have to now charge a nominal fee to keep from having too much work and no fun. So here it is, pick the parts that you would like help with, and know you will get more than your money's worth. I'll help you out for a day for what many lawyers would charge for an hour. If you have a particularly interesting and fun site you wish to develop, send me an Email (with pictures) and let's negotiate how we can do this for less $ and more satisfaction.
STEPS TO ENERGY INDEPENDENCE a guide:
SITE SURVEY AND ENGINEERING SMALL HYDRO POWER INSTALLATIONS:
Preliminary site inspections and feasibility estimates in the local area are generally just a flat fee of $100. A stipend of $500/day is charged for the onsite data collection portion to produce the DETAILED SITE SURVEY within a 50 mi radius of Cuddebackville NY. Outside of this, travel, lodging and meal expenses are additional. The following documents are charged as listed: (you may not need all of these documents so just choose and pick what you think you need, you may request additional documentation when/if needed. If you need me to prepare local permits, you will have to send me the forms. Each side of a 2 sided form is a page.)
All the engineering documents below will be specific to your site, and the results of my survey of your site are cited and included in these documents. This custom, site specific documentation varies in length and content so page counts are estimates. Each document request must be in writing and accompanied by a check for the appropriate amount. Email works well and I accept PayPal for payments of $5000 or less. I will prepare your requested documentation and have it out to you within 30 Days of receiving your order and cleared payment. If you order multiple documents it may take me a few additional days to get them all done. For larger sites (over 50KW but less than 500KW) an additional $200 per hour design and engineering fee is charged. I can Email your documents in PDF format or print them here and mail them. Some parts of these items are interdependent and generally should be ordered in sequence or together after the DETAILED SITE SURVEY is completed.
1. DETAILED SITE SURVEY consists of:
1a. Site topography, watershed study and watershed area determination and average flow rates. (1-3 page document, includes satellite images and maps $800)
1b. Determination of 'Q95' and 'Q50' and design head and flow rate, expected annual kWh production and valuation of the energy produced vs project cost estimates. (2-4 page doc $800)
2. Overall plan of water carrying circuits, structures (not including dams over 2' high or greater than 30' long. For design of such dams you will have to go to a civil engineering firm.), valve(s) placement and their elevations, optimum sizing and routing of penstock and discharge. Includes cost estimates. (1-2 page annotated drawings $1200)
3. Intake structures, fore-bays, self cleaning trash racks, ice and frizzle mitigation and sand, gravel, rock and log separation. Cost estimates for these items. (4-8 pages text and drawings $1500) (This can be your biggest maintenance headache, if not designed correctly for your site.)
4. Penstock pipe, materials, strength, procurement, installation methods, burying, anchoring, suspending, valves, water hammer bursting prevention, air inlet for collapse prevention, vortex air ingestion prevention and frost proofing / freeze up mitigation. (2-3 Pages w drawings $900)
5. Powerhouse design, construction and layout considerations, water distribution plenum, discharge pit / structures and cost estimates. (2-4 pg. Plan and elevation drawings $1000)
6. Turbine type, selection and optimum sizing for your site, buy ready made or build your own. All the details plus cost estimates. (3-7 pgs $1000)
7. Generator Selection, AC or DC, 12 - 48VDC, 120VAC, 240V, or 480V 1 Phase or 3, What speed? All the answers for your site, and perfectly matched to the turbine selection, Voltage regulation and Load controllers. Including cost estimates. (2-4 pgs $1200)
8. Complete power house electrical wiring diagram and parts list with costs. An electrician with commercial experience can purchase parts and install from these plans. (2-4 pages, drawings $1500)
9. The powerhouse to home and grid connection. Transfer switches, inter-tie protection relays, Net Metering. (2-3 pgs and diagrams / drawings $1200)
10. Connecting other renewable energy sources, Solar PV , Wind etc. (3-4 pgs $900)
11. Power plant monitoring, electric energy meters, monitor your plant via the internet from anywhere, webcam monitoring. (3-5 pgs $1500)
12. Application to the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) ($200 per page of the application as submitted + FERCs fee)
13. Application to State Department of Environmental Protection, Conservation or equivalent ($200 Per Page + DEC / DEP fees)
14. Any other county, city, town or local permits, and/or building permit applications. ($200 PP + fees)
15. Post construction, on site, system checkout and commissioning. Expenses plus $500/day.
16. Post commissioning trouble shooting. Expenses plus $500/day.
If you are interested in retaining my services in a more open ended arrangement please see my Consulting Agreement below.
Sincere Regards and Happy Hydro
Rob
Robert J. Honders CE
Developing Technologies
Honderosa Valley Consulting and Renewables Research
Studio Building I
129 Kennel Rd.
Cuddebackville NY 12729
Honders@HVC.RR.COM
CONSULTING and RETAINER AGREEMENT
This Agreement is made effective as of ________ 1, 20__, by and between
________________________________ and Robert J. Honders Sr. CE of
Honderosa Valley Consulting and Renewables Research.
In this Agreement, the party who is contracting to receive services shall be
referred to as "Client", and the party who will be providing the services shall
be referred to as "Consultant".
Consultant has professional engineering expertise in electrical / electronics,
water resources, and developing renewable energy and hydro power
resources cost effectively and is willing to provide services to Client based
on this background. Client desires to have services provided by Consultant
for the hydropower project at ___________________________________,
herein shall be referred to as the ʻProjectʼ.
Therefore, the parties agree as follows:
1. DESCRIPTION OF SERVICES. Beginning on ________ 1, 20__, and
ending 12 months later, Consultant will provide the following services
(collectively, the "Services"): Aid in the development of the water resources
entrusted to the Client to produce electrical power and integrate this energy
with other sources and loads for the maximum benefit of the Project and
Project objectives. Consultant will provide drawings and specifications with
enough detail so that competent contractors and their purchasing agents
can acquire equipment and materials and install them to meet the
development objective. Consultant will be available to advise clientʼs
contractors by phone during normal business hours or on site
with 24-hr. notice.
Services are billed at $300 per hour, first against the retainer.
Additional services are available such as: Design, specify, develop,
build, install and test of electronic monitoring and control systems;
procurement and installation of rotating machinery and switch gear.
Consultant will interact with the local utility to facilitate the grid connection.
2. PERFORMANCE OF SERVICES. The manner in which the Services are
to be performed and the specific hours to be worked by Consultant shall be
determined by Consultant. Client will rely on Consultant to work as many
hours as may be reasonably necessary to fulfill Consultant's obligations
under this Agreement.
3. RETAINER/PAYMENT. Client will pay a retainer to Consultant for the
Services in the amount of $5000. This fee shall be payable in advance
upon contract signing. This retainer is not refundable. Consultant shall bill
first to the retainer. Upon depletion of retainer, Client shall pay $2000.00 for
a 3 month extension of this agreement or allow this agreement to lapse and
pay additional fees, if any, upon presentment of a billing statement
by Consultant.
4. EXPENSE REIMBURSEMENT. Consultant shall be entitled to reimburse-
ment from Client for the following "out-of-pocket" expenses: travel and
lodging expenses and travel related meals.
5. TERM/TERMINATION. This Agreement shall terminate automatically upon
completion by Consultant of the Services required by this agreement or one
year from the effective date of this agreement.
6. RELATIONSHIP OF PARTIES. It is understood by the parties that
Consultant is an independent contractor with respect to Client, and not
an employee of Client. Client will not provide fringe benefits, including
health insurance benefits, paid vacation, or any other employee benefit,
for the benefit of Consultant.
7. EMPLOYEES. Consultant's employees, if any, who perform services for
Client under this Agreement shall also be bound by the provisions of this
Agreement.
8. NOTICES. All notices required or permitted under this Agreement shall
be in writing and shall be deemed delivered when delivered in person or
deposited in the United States mail, postage prepaid, addressed as follows:
If for Client:
____________________________________ Name
____________________________________ Mobile
____________________________________ Office
____________________________________ Address
____________________________________
____________________________________ Email
If for Consultant:
Robert Honders Sr CE
Honderosa Valley Consulting and Renewables Research
129 Kennel Rd
Cuddebackville NY 12729
845 754 7106
Honders@HVC.RR.com
Such address may be changed by either party by providing written notice to
the other in the manner set forth above.
9. ENTIRE AGREEMENT. This Agreement contains the entire agreement of
the parties and there are no other promises or conditions in any other
agreement whether oral or written. This Agreement supersedes any prior
written or oral agreements between the parties.
10. AMENDMENT. This Agreement may be modified or amended if the
amendment is made in writing and is signed by both parties.
11. SEVERABILITY. If any provision of this Agreement shall be held to be
invalid or unenforceable for any reason, the remaining provisions shall
continue to be valid and enforceable. If a court finds that any provision of
this Agreement is invalid or unenforceable, but that by limiting such
provision it would become valid and enforceable, then such provision
shall be deemed to be written, construed, and enforced as so limited.
12. WAIVER OF CONTRACTUAL RIGHT. The failure of either party to
enforce any provision of this Agreement shall not be construed as a
waiver or limitation of that party's right to subsequently enforce and
compel strict compliance with every provision of this Agreement.
13. APPLICABLE LAW. This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the
State of New York.
Date:_______________
Party receiving services, Client:
By:
___________________________________________________________
Party providing services: Robert J Honders Sr. Consulting Engineer
By:
___________________________________________________________
RECEIPT
Acknowledged receipt from Client the sum of $ 5000. This payment
constitutes payment of the retainer required under Section 3 of this Agreement.
By:
___________________________________________________________
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